From Illinois Family Institute and the Daily Wire. By Megan Basham.
In September, 2021, Wheaton College dean Ed Stetzer interviewed NIH Director Francis Collins on his podcast, “Church Leadership” about why Christians who want to obey Christ’s command to love their neighbors should get the Covid vaccine and avoid indulging in misinformation.
[I pray that by sharing Megan’s piece, it can lead to understanding, unifying grace, forgiveness and peace.]
For those not familiar with Stetzer, he’s not just a religious liberal arts professor and this wasn’t just another dime-a-dozen pastorly podcast.
To name just a few of his past and present titles in the evangelical world, Stetzer is also the executive director of the Billy Graham Center and the editor-in-chief of Outreach media group. He was previously an editor at Christianity Today and an executive director at LifeWay, one of the largest religious publishers in the world. That’s to say nothing of the dozen-plus books on missions and church planting he’s authored.
Which is why, when Stetzer joined a line of renowned pastors and ministry leaders lending their platforms to Obama-appointee Collins, the collaboration was noteworthy.
During their discussion, Collins and Stetzer were hardly shy about the fact that they were asking ministers to act as the administration’s go-between with their congregants. “I want to exhort pastors once again to try to use your credibility with your flock to put forward the public health measures that we know can work,” Collins said.
Stetzer replied that he sometimes hears from ministers who don’t feel comfortable preaching about Covid vaccines, and he advises them, in those cases, to simply promote the jab through social media.
“I just tell them, when you get vaccinated, post a picture and say, ‘So thankful I was able to get vaccinated,’” Stetzer said. “People need to see that it is the reasonable view.”
Their conversation also turned to the subject of masking children at school, with Collins noting that Christians, in particular, have been resistant to it. His view was firm—kids should be masked if they want to be in the classroom. To do anything else is to turn schools into super spreaders. Stetzer offered no pushback or follow-up questions based on views from other medical experts. He simply agreed.
The most crucial question Stetzer never asked Collins however, was why convincing church members to get vaccinated or disseminating certain administration talking points should be the business of pastors at all.
Christians and Conspiracy Theories
Stetzer’s efforts to help further the NIH’s preferred coronavirus narratives went beyond simply giving Collins a softball venue to rally pastors to his cause. He ended the podcast by announcing that the Billy Graham Center would be formally partnering with the NIH and the CDC to launch a website, coronavirusandthechurch.com, to provide clergy Covid resources they could then convey to their congregations.
Much earlier in the pandemic, as an editor at evangelicalism’s flagship publication, Christianity Today (CT), Stetzer had also penned essays parroting Collins’ arguments on conspiracy theories. Among those he lambasted other believers for entertaining, the hypothesis that the coronavirus had leaked from a Wuhan lab. In a now deleted essay, preserved by Web Archive, Stetzer chided, “If you want to believe that some secret lab created this as a biological weapon, and now everyone is covering that up, I can’t stop you.”
It may seem strange, given the evidence now emerging of NIH-funded gain-of-function research in Wuhan, to hear a church leader instruct Christians to “repent” for the sin of discussing the plausible supposition that the virus had escaped from a Chinese laboratory. This is especially true as it doesn’t take any great level of spiritual discernment — just plain common sense — to look at the fact that Covid first emerged in a city with a virology institute that specializes in novel coronaviruses and realize it wasn’t an explanation that should be set aside too easily. But it appears Stetzer was simply following Collins’ lead.
Only two days before Stetzer published his essay, Collins participated in a livestream event, co-hosted by CT. The outlet introduced him as a “follower of Jesus, who affirms the sanctity of human life” despite the fact that Collins is on record stating he does not definitively believe, as most pro-lifers do, that life begins at conception, and his tenure at NIH has been marked by extreme anti-life, pro-LGBT policies. (More on this later).
But the pro-life Christian framing was sure to win Collins a hearing among an audience with deep religious convictions about the evil of abortion. Many likely felt reassured to hear that a likeminded medical expert was representing them in the administration.
During the panel interview, Collins continued to insist that the lab leak theory wasn’t just unlikely but qualified for the dreaded misinformation label. “If you were trying to design a more dangerous coronavirus,” he said, “you would never have designed this one … So I think one can say with great confidence that in this case the bioterrorist was nature … Humans did not make this one. Nature did.”
It was the same message his subordinate, Dr. Anthony Fauci, had been giving to secular news outlets, but Collins was specifically tapped to carry the message to the faithful.
As Time Magazine reported in Feb. 2021, “While Fauci has been medicine’s public face, Collins has been hitting the faith-based circuit…and preaching science to believers.”
The editors, writers, and reporters at Christian organizations didn’t question Collins any more than their mainstream counterparts questioned Fauci.
Certainly The Gospel Coalition, a publication largely written for and by pastors, didn’t probe beyond the “facts” Collins’ offered or consider any conflicts of interest the NIH director might have had before publishing several essays that cited him as almost their lone source of information. As with CT, one article by Gospel Coalition editor Joe Carter linked the reasonable hypothesis that the virus might have been human-made with wilder QAnon fantasies. It then lectured readers that spreading such ideas would damage the church’s witness in the world.
Of course, Stetzer and The Gospel Coalition had no way of knowing at that point that Collins and Fauci had already heard from leading U.S. and British scientists who believed the virus had indeed escaped from a Chinese lab. Or that they believed it might be the product of gain-of-function engineering, possibly with funding from the NIH itself. Nor could they have predicted that emails between Collins and Fauci would later show the pair had a habit of turning to friendly media contacts (including, it seems, Christian media contacts) to discredit and suppress opinions they didn’t like, such as questioning Covid’s origins and the wisdom of masks and lockdowns.
What Stetzer and others did know was that one of the most powerful bureaucrats in the world was calling on evangelical leaders to be “ambassadors for truth.” And they were happy to answer that call.
The question was, just how truthful was Collins’ truth?
Evangelical Leaders of a Feather
Image sources: Francis Collins, Ed Stetzer, Tim Keller, Rick Warren, Franklin Graham.
Stetzer, CT, and The Gospel Coalition were hardly alone in uncritically lending their sway over rank-and-file evangelicals to Collins. The list of Christian leaders who passed the NIH director their mics to preach messages about getting jabs, wearing masks, and accepting the official line on Covid is as long as it is esteemed.
One of the most noteworthy was the Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission (ERLC), an organization funded by churches in the Southern Baptist Convention, the largest Protestant denomination in the U.S.
While a webinar featuring Collins and then-ERLC-head Russell Moore largely centered, again, on the importance of church leaders convincing church members to get vaccinated, the discussion also moved on to the topic of masks. With Moore nodding along, Collins held up a basic, over-the-counter cloth square, “This is not a political statement,” he asserted. “This is not an invasion of your personal freedom…This is a life-saving medical device.”
Even in late 2020, the claim was highly debatable among medical experts. As hematologist-oncologist Vinay Prasad wrote in City Journal this month, public health officials like Collins have had a truth problem over the entire course of Covid, but especially when it comes to masks. “The only published cluster randomized trial of community cloth masking during Covid-19,” Prasad reported, “found that…cloth masks were no better than no masks at all.” [emphasis mine].
At this point, even the CDC is backing away from claims that cloth masks are worth much of anything.
Yet none of the Christian leaders platforming Collins evidently felt it was worth exploring a second opinion. And the list of pastors who were willing to take a bureaucrat’s word that matters that could have been left to Christian liberty were instead tests of one’s love for Jesus goes on.
Former megachurch pastor Tim Keller’s joint interview with Collins included a digression where the pair agreed that churches like John MacArthur’s, which continued to meet in-person despite Covid lockdowns, represented the “bad and ugly” of good, bad, and ugly Christian responses to the virus.
During Saddleback Pastor Rick Warren’s special broadcast with Collins on behalf of Health and Human Services, he mentioned that he and Collins first met when both were speakers for the billionaires and heads of state who gather annually in Davos, Switzerland for the World Economic Forum. They reconnected recently, Warren revealed, at an “off-the-record” meeting between Collins and “key faith leaders.” Warren did not say, but one can make an educated guess as to who convened that meeting and for what purpose, given the striking similarity of Collins’ appearances alongside all these leading Christian lights.
Once again, Warren and Collins spent their interview jointly lamenting the unlovingness of Christians who question the efficacy of masks, specifically framing it as a matter of obedience to Jesus. “Wearing a mask is the great commandment: love your neighbor as yourself,” the best-selling author of “The Purpose-Driven Life” declared, before going on to specifically argue that religious leaders have an obligation to convince religious people to accept the government’s narratives about Covid.
“Let me just say a word to the priests and pastors and rabbis and other faith leaders,” he said. “This is our job as leaders, to deal with these conspiracy issues and things like that…One of the responsibilities of faith leaders is to tell people to…trust the science. They’re not going to put out a vaccine that’s going to hurt people.”
Leaving aside for a moment the fact that government does have a record of putting out vaccines that ‘hurt people,” is it truly the pastor’s job to tell church members to “trust the science?” Is it a pastor’s job to slyly insult other pastors who chose to handle shutdowns differently, as Warren did when he quipped that his “ego doesn’t require” him to “have a live audience to speak to.”
And still the list goes on.
The same week MacArthur’s church was in the news for resisting California Governor Gavin Newsom orders to keep houses of worship closed, Collins participated in an interview with celebrated theologian N.T. Wright.
During a discussion where the NIH director once again trumpeted the efficacy of cloth masks, he and Wright warned against conspiracies, mocking “disturbing examples” of churches that continued meeting because they thought “the devil can’t get into my church” or “Jesus is my vaccine.” Lest anyone wonder whether Wright experienced some pause over lending his reputation as a deep Christian thinker to Caesar’s agent, the friends finished with a guitar duet.
Throughout all of it, Collins brought the message to the faithful through their preachers and leaders: “God is calling [Christians] to do the right thing.”
And none of those leaders thought to question whether Collins’ “right thing” and God’s “right thing” must necessarily be the same thing.
Why not? As Warren said of Collins during their interview: “He’s a man you can trust.”
A Man You Can Trust
Perhaps the evangelical elites’ willingness to unhesitatingly credit Collins with unimpeachable honesty has something to do with his rather Mr. Rogers-like appearance and gentle demeanor, noting that he has a tendency to punctuate his soft speech with exclamations of “oh boy!” and “by golly!”
Going by his concrete record, however, he seems like a strange ambassador to spread the government’s Covid messaging to theologically conservative congregations. Other than his proclamations that he is, himself, a believer, the NIH director espouses nearly no public positions that would mark him out as any different from any extreme Left-wing bureaucrat.
He has not only defended experimentation on fetuses obtained by abortion, he has also directed record-level spending toward it. Among the priorities the NIH has funded under Collins — a University of Pittsburgh experiment that involved grafting infant scalps onto lab rats, as well as projects that relied on the harvested organs of aborted, full-term babies.
Some doctors have even charged Collins with giving money to research that required extracting kidneys, ureters, and bladders from living infants.
He further has endorsed unrestricted funding of embryonic stem cell research, personally attending President Obama’s signing of an Executive Order to reverse a previous ban on such expenditures. When Nature magazine asked him about the Trump administration’s decision to shut down fetal cell research, Collins made it clear he disagreed, saying, “I think it’s widely known that the NIH tried to protect the continued use of human fetal tissue. But ultimately, the White House decided otherwise. And we had no choice but to stand down.”
To the most holy of progressive sacred cows — LGBTQ orthodoxy — Collins has been happy to genuflect. Having declared himself an “ally” of the gay and trans movements, he went on to say he “[applauds] the courage and resilience it takes for [LGBTQ] individuals to live openly and authentically””and is “committed to listening, respecting, and supporting [them]” as an “advocate.”
These are not just the empty words of a hapless Christian official saying what he must to survive in a hostile political atmosphere. Collins’ declaration of allyship is deeply reflected in his leadership.
Under his watch, the NIH launched a new initiative to specifically direct funding to “sexual and gender minorities.” On the ground, this has translated to awarding millions in grants to experimental transgender research on minors, like giving opposite-sex hormones to children as young as eight and mastectomies to girls as young as 13.
Another project, awarded $8 million in grants, included recruiting teen boys to track their homosexual activities like “condomless anal sex” on an app without their parents’ consent.
Other than his assertions of his personal Christian faith, there is almost no public stance Collins has taken that would mark him out as someone of like mind with the everyday believers to whom he was appealing.
How did Collins overcome all this baggage to become the go-to expert for millions of Christians? With a little help from his friends, who were happy to stand as his character witnesses.
Keller, Warren, Wright, and Stetzer all publicly lauded him as a godly brother. When presenting Collins to Southern Baptists, Moore gushed over him as the smartest man in a book club he attends that also includes, according to Time Magazine, such luminaries of the “Christiantelligentsia” as The Atlantic’s Pete Wehner and The New York Times’ David Brooks.
In October, even after Collins’ funding of the University of Pittsburgh research of humanized mice had become widely known, Moore continued to burnish his friend’s reputation, saying, “I admire greatly the wisdom, expertise, and, most of all, the Christian humility and grace of Francis Collins.”
Since news began breaking months ago that Collins and Fauci intentionally used their media connections to conspire to suppress the lab-leak theory, none of the individuals or organizations in this story has corrected their records or asked Collins publicly about his previous statements. Nor have they circled back with him to inquire on record about revelations the NIH funded gain-of-function coronavirus research in Wuhan. They also haven’t questioned him on the increasing scientific consensus that cloth masks were never very useful and even harmful.
In their presentation of Collins’ expertise, these pastors and leaders suggested that questioning his explanations as to the origins of the virus or the efficacy of masks was not simply a point of disagreement but sinful. This was a charge likely to have a great deal of impact on churchgoers who strive to live lives in accordance with godly standards. Perhaps no other argument could’ve been more persuasive to this demographic.
This does not mean these leaders necessarily knew that the information they were conveying to the broader Christian public could be false, but it does highlight the danger religious leaders face when they’re willing to become mouth organs of the government.
It would’ve been better had the evangelical establishment never platformed Collins at all and shipwrecked their own reputations to showcase their lofty connections to him.
Why they did it is a question only they can answer. Perhaps in their eagerness to promote vaccines, these leaders weren’t willing to offer any pushback to Collins’ other claims. Certainly, the lure of respect in the halls of power has proved too great a siren call for many a man. Or perhaps it was simply that their friend, the NIH director, called on them for a favor. If so, “a friend” like Collins deserved much, much more scrutiny.
There’s an instructive moment at the end of Warren‘s interview with Collins. The pastor misquotes Proverbs 4, saying, “Get the facts at any price.”
That, of course, is not what the verse says. It says get wisdom at any price. And it was wisdom that was severely lacking when so many pastors and ministry heads recklessly turned over their platforms, influence, and credibility to a government official who had done little to demonstrate he deserved them.
The much longer, full article was originally published by the Daily Wire. By Megan Basham.
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Deborah Berko
Thank you for publishing this vital information. We watched a video on this topic a few weeks ago: https://enemieswithinthechurch.com/
Jacqueline
Deborah, thank you for this video! I haven’t watched yet, but I’ve been looking for a good one.
God bless you, friend!
Sending peace,
Jacque
Deborah Berko
You are most welcome. Thanking GOD for the sacrifices you and others are making to get the truth out.
Louise
Thank you so much for your wonderful posts Jacqui…..we have a small group of doctors in New Zealand who are speaking out with science. Here is their latest post. https://nzdsos.com/2022/02/08/its-a-small-world-micro-tech-in-the-jabs/
Jacqueline
Thank you, Louise! I will read it!
Let’s keep the Son in our eyes!
Hugs,
Jacque
Lynd
The Nano Technology in these mRNA shots has the capability for a digital passport tied to a social credit score. It doesn’t take much to imagine what evil men will do with this in the future.
What is more heartbreaking is the “ Christian “ leaders cheering them on. I am reminded of Jesus teachings in Matthew 10:16 Be wise as serpents and gentle as doves. When this dam breaks and it will there will be many sick and disillusioned Christians that will need our help.
Jacqueline
Lynd, you just said a mouthful! All true.. We left our beloved church back in April 2020, bc they went ‘woke’ and WELL OVER half the church saw it and left!
They refused to hear the truth and cancelled those of us who were heartbroken. It was shocking that it could happen so quickly and irrevocably like it did!
Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
Sending peace,
Jacque
alphaandomega21
Yes, broad is the road to destruction and many take it. The separation between sheep and goats, wheat and tares is taking place.
Sue Beer
Pastor Robert Jeffers a while back on Lou Dobbs TV show said the vaccine was a “gift from God.”
Jacqueline
Sue, that man is deceived.. first he said D. Trump was a gift from God and then the “V”.
No man is to replace God (even though he may be really helpful for a time), so he seems to be making idols left and right!
Let’s keep the Son in our eyes!
Hugs,
Jacque
alphaandomega21
The vaccine was and is in fact a “git from god.”, that Great Git Satan, the liar and murderer from the beginning and the god of this world. All vaccines were from him.
Satan is as mad as a hatter. I call Satan, once Lucifer, ‘Loopy Lucy’ As a consequence.
As for Robert Jeffress… well some people are not very bright on some things. God will have some serious words with Robert.
Still, I used to think vaccines were of some use until I researched properly at 60 years of age. I am a bit slow.
I caught up eventually and won’t touch vaccines now let alone big pharma drugs with the proverbial barge pole.
Barb Tocci
There has always been false shepherds, who for bowl of porridge, or 30 pieces of silver they give themselves over to whore-dom. They get captured by the accolades ,the fame, thinking of themselves to highly. Those that have retained a secret sin, incomplete repentance upon taking up the gospel, satan will use pride and this Achilles heel, this hidden sin as leverage. This AM I was in Matt 13, verse 3-17 speaks to the those who love the truth, and those who can’t see, can’t hear, they hate the truth, because the truth…. it will cost you!! They have become “dull of hearing” Matt 24: 3 While Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately. “Tell us,” they said, “when will these things happen, and what will be the sign of Your coming and of the end of the age?”4Jesus answered, “See to it that no one deceives you.”
Paul echoed this.. 2 Thess 2:9″The coming of the lawless one will be accompanied by the working of Satan, with every kind of power, sign, and false wonder, 10 and with every wicked deception directed against those who are perishing, because they refused the love of the truth that would have saved them. 11For this reason God will send **them a powerful delusion** so that they believe the lie, 12in order that judgment may come upon all who have disbelieved the truth and delighted in wickedness.” So now we are the testimony of Christ on the earth, looking to pull back from the abyss as many as we can. I cry more than I have ever cried about the state of the world, lead us Lord to those who have an ear to hear eyes to see!
Jacqueline
Amen, Barb! I share in your tears… my heart is heavy for those who refuse to see. It is like the churches that refuse to hear what the Spirit is saying to them… thus there is the downfall of many who aren’t looking to Jesus, the author and perfector of our faith…
Let’s keep the Son in our eyes!
Hugs,
Jacque
Barb Tocci
The lintel over most the American churches has the word “Ichabod” …”The glory has departed.” Just writing these words my heartbreaks. You are exactly right, so many trade their up close and personal relationship with our heavenly Father,Jesus our brother, and the Holy Spirit out comforter, for “See ya next Sunday” All the while Jesus stands at the door and knocks.
Jeannette
Well, this explains a lot. Franklin Graham and Rick Warren were the ones I had heard of, who carried the torch of the gov’t. I am so sorry that your own church fell victim to this. Ours hasn’t spoken for the jab, but I did hear one pastor mention during announcements that he had got it.
I couldn’t read the whole article, it just is so upsetting. I will try again later.
Thank you for sharing!!
Jacqueline
Yes, this is a VERY revealing article and so thankful I could share it! It is so gut-wrenching that we are living in these corrupt times that you can’t even trust the church for gospel truth.
That is why we are supposed to be Bereans and keep our wicks trimmed and our oil lanterns full!
Be ready in season and out!
Sending love to you, faithful friend!
Jacque
alphaandomega21
I rather feel the same. I have been upset for nearly 2 years now when I at last understood what was really going on in June 2020 at 60 years of age.
sahmpaw
We almost left our church due to the decision to mask sunday school kids and teachers, but before we did we talked to our pastor and he supported our entire family attending church maskless. Unfortunately there are a lot of current or former public school teachers (majority are women) in the committees that made this awful decision. Shouldn’t our pastor be the head of the church?
Jacqueline
Sahmpaw, Yes, and the elders… they must make decisions based on whar the word says, not committees!
May the Lord bless you and keep you! ~J
alphaandomega21
I wish I did not have to say it, but sadly it is much the female wish for health and safety at all costs driving much of the madness. It is understandable that the female should be that way, but the male has both X and Y chromosomes and is made to take a measured view if both masculine and feminine sides are in balance.
If you need amusing to relieve the awfulness and stupidity of the masking decision, you could do worse than read my link. I think it is funny but then I am easily pleased!!
https://alphaandomegacloud.wordpress.com/2021/08/12/faith-masks/
Geri
This really lights a fire under me! When I think of how our pastors helped inform our leaders and commanders before the Revolutionary War and see how low they have sunk, it really gripes me. I have not attended church since my Presbyterian church began the “love your neighbor, wear a mask” nonsense. And I won’t be back. The national church is so far down the wide path, there’s absolutely no reason to be there. Besides that, church has become like a koffee klatch at the country club. I’d rather listen to Tony Evans and give my tithe to T2T and our local, effective rescue mission in addition to those who spread the gospel on radio. Sorry if I sound irritated, but I’m that and then some.
Barb Tocci
Geri, I feel your fire sister! You never have to apologize for the speaking forth truth, in/by the same spirit caused Jesus to turn over the table of the money changers! Most of the American church is run by CEO/imperial pastorates’ that work at plying there spells on the sheep for mammon. According to the word, James 3:1 /1Tim 1: 3-7/ Jude!!!! (This is very good)They will be judged.
We haven’t been in a church for 20 years, but every where we have lived God has provided a women’s/men’s weekly meeting /bible study, iron sharpening iron, submitting to one another. Seasons, some years long, where my sons and their wives would do a weekly bible forum on Zoom. Never forsaking the fellowship, but allowing God direct our steps! We all stand before the Lord, not with the church we attended, but naked, showing how we have maintained and invested in our relationship with the Trinity . God Bless you!!
Geri
Thank you, Barb for your wise and kind words. I wasn’t sure how my comments would be received, but though I wish I were meek and mild, I fear there’s a bit of spit and fire in me! I keep waiting for God’s giant broom and housekeeping to begin in the house of the Lord.
Barb Tocci
Geri,
If Jacqueline hasn’t put me in the “time out chair”, I think You are pretty safe. God has a unique expression of Himself in us all, enjoy it. Shaped and tempered by life’s experiences,all tools in His hand, these great up and downs of life humble us but DON’T crush us, by His grace and the “SPIT & FIRE” that He put in you! His ways and His work are perfect! God has Deborah’s and Esther’s !
alphaandomega21
Believe it or not the heavenly Father, Jesus and all the angels unseen are hard at work already. It’s not easy to see it until you are fully in the heavenly realms. The view is fantastic, you can see forever, and everything makes sense at last.
As Bob Dylan sang ‘there’s a slow train coming round the bend’. It is in view. The tide is turning this year.
alphaandomega21
Good, be irritated. The heavenly father likes irritated when people are using common sense like you are in this matter.
As is written be angry, but do not let then sun go down on your anger. Do what you can to tell the terminally dim they are being incredibly silly. Then you can sleep well at night.
You may have to rinse repeat the process until stupidity is washed away of course.
Lisa
Most of the leaders mentioned in this article are really not that conservative. They may pretend to be, but in reality they are “woke.” Warren, Keller, Moore… I would never be apart of those churches. I would never be apart of any church that supported the Covid from even the beginning. God has given us the Spirit to use discernment and to follow Him not man!
I too was going to recommend watching the new documentary Enemies Within the Church. It exposes these very “Christian” pastors.
This article also states that these pastors were calling out John MacArthur and saying he was dangerous. The exact opposite is true! He is a pastor worth listening to. But again, we follow leaders only so far as they are staying true to the Word. Jesus is the head and we follow Him over any church or pastor.
I think we can see clearly that true believers are a small minority in all those that call themselves Christians.
I really appreciate your blog so much. You bring relevant news for our day, teaching women, and sharing so much info from a conservative, Biblical perspective. Another person I really appreciate and find very informative is Curtis Bowers with Agenda Weekly. If you haven’t listened to his program, I highly recommend.
Jacqueline
Lisa, thank you for your insight. And, yes, I really appreciate Curtis Bowers, too!
Deborah
Hi
I just found your webpage and read this blog. Here are pieces of the puzzle you may not know. Fritz Springmeier wrote a book many years ago called Top 13 Bloodlines of the Illuminati (that may not be exact, but it’s close). One of the family surnames he talks about is Collins. All the families he reveals in his book are Satan worshipers for generations and are involved with bringing about the nwo.
I believe it’s the same author who revealed that Billy Graham was a 33 degree mason who played a part in the programing of mk ultra victims. He wasn’t the godly man people had been brainwashed to believe. These victims had had their personalities split at a young age and were under mind control. They were programmed to do certain things in response to hearing certain phrases or songs. This info is available if you search on Duck Duck Go.
Jacqueline
Deborah, thank you for sharing that. I don’t think we will ver truly know for sure, but anymore I don’t totally discount some of these things… I am not all-knowing, but there is a smell and ring of some truth to that.
We are told: “Beloved, never avenge yourselves, but leave it to the wrath of God, for it is written, “Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord.” ~Romans 12:19
There is so much revealed in these last few years that more pieces of the puzzle are coming together.
“Watch and pray!”
Sending peace,
Jacqueline
Matthew Stone
I decree and declare that leaders who think this way and try to push political agendas onto the church will start to see their influence, readership and congregations dwindle. In Jesus name. They are deceived to think that is what God wants.
alphaandomega21
Indeed so.
Mary
Thank you for sharing this information- it happened in our church and I still grieve the division and loss of our faith community.